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Post by Cy Skywalker on Dec 12, 2004 19:04:04 GMT -5
There's enough of us here (and one who doesn't think she is coughKTcough) that we should be able to talk. Have at it! I've been writing like 3 OFs and a bunch of fanfics lately. Things are spilling out..I almost feel crowded if I don't write. It's good, I guess. I write during class...mauhaha.
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Post by MFB on Dec 14, 2004 15:18:05 GMT -5
Wow...write during class. You're brave. ;D Of course, I used to do that as well, but my classes are at home, so I can get away with it. ;D Tis one of the reasons I'm so far behind in school...*mutters*
Yeah, you're more committed than I, Cy. I'm at a slow point in my "carrer." I WISH I could finish chapter 19....it'd make me feel so accomplished. And you're even working of 7 fics...i'm working on 3. If I could at least get something done...but AC. We'll have an epic fic up here soon: The Legend of the Star Lord Revolutions! ;D Did my pic get to you?
To start some interesting conversation, what styles of writing does everyone like to use? I mean outside of script style or quote.
Usually when I approach a paragraph of dialouge, I try to get in as many epic descriptions as possible. Obviously, everyone (or most people) here knows that my dialouge is often humorous or silly. So I try to get out the epicness in my descriptions. Sometimes I think it fails, but at other times, like chapter 19, it gives the darkness and evil needed, but keeps Link's light-hearted nature. For example:
Link found himself above Kakariko’s graveyard. He slowly walked down a flight of stairs which led to a small cavern. Imbedded in the wall far in the back of the cavern was a tall door, on which was a stationary eye. Although it could not move, it gave forth an intimidating presence that spoke for itself. As Link approached it, he could hear hoarse whispers surrounding him: the whispers of the dead, angered by the boy in their presence who had awakened them from their restless slumber.
Link stood before the Keeper of the Dead, an evil in the shape of an eye, engraved upon the door which kept shut the path into the Temple. He felt that the Keeper wished for a sign of proof, something that would gain him admittance to the Temple. He could think of nothing to say, nothing to do…except…<br> Link: Um…hi?
The Keeper seemed to stare back at Link with an air of disgust.
Something like that, although that is a poor example. I'd have to reveal more in order for it to make more sense. It's hard when you start a fanfic with a humorous base, but it is inevitable that a darker chapter must arise later. When I wrote TLoL, I didn't think of getting even as far as Adult Link, much less the Shadow Temple. But I like how it turned out much better than how it started. ;D
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Post by Cy Skywalker on Dec 16, 2004 17:08:27 GMT -5
that was pretty good. I like to write action right now, and it's fun to try to work description into things. I would give you an example, but I don't really know what of. You have TlotSLR now. Style depends a lot on voice, you're individual voice, and the flow of it, I think. If you want a full critique, I think that flowed mostly well, just a little bit off, and the sentance about Link thinking that the eye wanted a sign of proof was a little to serious. That and I don't like quote, but that's ok. It's how you work. Most of my teachers, actually all of them this year though last year a few didn't let me, either don't care or figure that if I can write and keep my grade up they'll let me do it. That's when the majority of my stuff gets done. It's all in Basic or dawrven, because i'm paranoid and think that most people in my school would think ff writing or SF in general is weird. And because it's fun to hear people's responses to a book full of code... I'm not to good a humor, I don't think. It's not in me. I will pose this question very simply, and maybe it wil work; When you are writing a fic, does it ever feel almost like you are not making it up at all, but you are seeing it? And the hard part is getting the words, the...book, to match what you see?
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Post by MFB on Dec 16, 2004 22:07:51 GMT -5
Perfectly put. I almost never feel as if I'm just writing: it's the putting into words my vision. But the restricting part are the words. How do you explain a long battle between Link and Dark Link? It's nearly impossible to do without suffering repitition and dryness. But when you manage to get a beautifully scripted event, it feels so rewarding...even if your fic is supposed to be humorous. ;D (Hey, without beauty, there is nothing lasting in anything...IMO...)
And I'm actually thinking of creating a version that features quote style. I myself find the script style easier to read and write, but I guess others dislike the style.
Thanks for the critique. From a fellow author, it means much more. Yes, it flows poorly. I chose a bad section. And it is very serious. "too serious," if you must call it that. It will be the most serious of all chapters. But I wanted an eerie feeling, like Link could tell without words that this thing could speak. Hard to describe...
Do you ever notice how sometimes when you write it just flows, while other times you have to force it out? And when it's forced, it turns out poorly? So it ultimately must flow for it to come out perfectly, or else it only is so-so or bad. Maybe this is just me...
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Post by Cy Skywalker on Dec 18, 2004 11:22:38 GMT -5
flow is defiantly important. Have you considered original fiction, MFB? Breaking into that is almost as important as quotes. And maybe for you the latter will be as hard as the former is for me...
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Post by MFB on Dec 18, 2004 15:45:08 GMT -5
Origional fiction...
Well, there is a story that I have that could be considered OF. Me and my brother (though mostly me) have altered, changed, and fed this story for over 5 years. I've written maps, story lines, plot twists, you name it. I have written quite a few musical pieces for it, as themes for the various areas. And someday, if I become a game programmer, I want to make it into a personal project. It is, of course, an epic fantisy action/adventure/humor story...but it uses characters from various other stories. However, we've altered them so dramstically that you couldn't tell that they are the characters from their native tales. I'll give you a hint of the tale.
For over a hundred years, the Army of Lights has kept peace throughout the world. Their name derrived from their weapons: blades that resembled beams of light. (akin to lightsabers, so to speak.) They found ways to harness the power of the sun to create such weapons of "peace." But not all was as it was meant to be. The great grandson of the initial founder of the Army, came one day to his newly inheritted Army. He claimed himself ruler of it, twisted the whole properties of the Army to his own greedy needs, and proclaimed himself the High General Red.
One of the generals, Zack Pink, would not subcum to the evil ruler. He hurried his younger brother, Henry, out of the Army, telling him to flee far away from the evil things that were to happen there.
Henry made his abode on the other side of the world, in the small city of Stupidville. There he wed Katt, and years later, had their first son. They named him Henry Gravey Pink Jr. What they did not foresee, was the great part he would play in the salvation of the world, for years later, Henry Sr. was visited by an old friend. He begged Henry for assistance in their war against the Army of lights. Henry agreed.
Seven years passed. No word of Henry Jr.'s father had come. He had made two friends in this time: Donkey Kong, an enourmous Ape, and Ash, a 12-year-old genious. One day, while the three were out, Henry's home was attaked, and his mother captured. He determined to set out to find his mom and dad, and so marked the beginning of their long quest.
That's a poor example of the back story. I didn't note half of the events: the race with Henry Jr., a.k.a., Captain Falcon, the desolation of Shadowin (the Army's headquarters), the flight of Henry Sr., how he met Katt, and many other things. I dunno if I'd ever make it into a book...I wrote like...over 12 pages, in my print, not on the comp, that didn't even span the first chapter. And I wrote something like 14 pages for a proluge and stuff. But almost all the charaters are from a Nintendo Game or LotR. You'd never be able to tell they were these characters, however. Yeah...so that's a bit of my life's work. It's my "secret" work that no one will probably ever see. ;D I mean, the title wold rase some eyebrows. "The Stupid Guys" would probably not do well in the OF world. No one would take it as seriously and as heartfelt as I, however strange it sounds. ;D
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Post by Cy Skywalker on Dec 19, 2004 7:53:25 GMT -5
I see how it's kinda silly, and the references aren't that hard to pick out. 'tis interesting that you've been working on it for so long. I have...*counts on fingers* 3 main OFs now, the Yingyns one, a alien gladiator thing i'm gonna put up soon, and something about raptors in an AU where the dinosaurs were never destroyed. I mostly just started them, though i've had the scenes in my head. The whole beginning of Yingyns came really weird, it was like an uber-watching it. That makes sense?
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Post by Morndakiél on Feb 21, 2005 13:10:54 GMT -5
i can only write sometimes. Nothing comes if it's not emotional/romancy. Maybe that's a dependacy of some sort, but i'm ok with it. But i know when i go i go fast and well and...deep. And hidden. There's something different about writing you know you'll never show to anyone. Like you trap worlds.
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Post by SilverSergyon13 on Feb 22, 2005 19:38:27 GMT -5
ramancy? I can'ticture you writing that kind of stuff...
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Post by Morndakiél on Feb 23, 2005 18:20:57 GMT -5
...only as romancey as you would see in my bio. Vague. Dark.
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Post by kanedbydemons on Feb 24, 2005 8:53:57 GMT -5
Heh, I write bits of things, usually. Because once I get writing something I have to write it down before it goes onto a different part of the story in my head... Meh, sounds stupid, I know, but I just tend to write because I have something like a film going on in my head and I write it down because it looks good there... Shame it never does on paper/computer screen... The only one I've ever let anyone see is Gone, all dark and morbid - the only morbid one I ever actually wrote in fact! Anyway, I always wanted to try OF but never have a good enough idea. It's a shame really.
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Post by Cy Skywalker on Feb 25, 2005 20:20:25 GMT -5
i wasn't able to do OF into about a year ago, at which point i "found" the yingyns universe and just kindof liked it. It's hard to #1 find a world and #2 find a world you like enough to stay in for a while. i think not being able to put down what you see plagues a lot of us. You gotta really think about all your words, your between-the-words atmosphere, and read a lot of good stuff.
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Post by kanedbydemons on Feb 26, 2005 3:20:16 GMT -5
I get what you're saying. SO much work goes into one little story... It's easy to forget that when you read a book or a fic. Maybe I should appreciate the work people have put in more than I do.
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Post by Cy Skywalker on Feb 26, 2005 21:11:23 GMT -5
Well, you do start thinking about what goes into books more. That happens with anything, once you've started working on it. Like karate for instance, my new fetish. Dumb Neo, he didn't have to go through any training, he just plugged in and..."I know kung fu." Cheater! And a lot of my OF, now that I think about it, is like tribute/hidden fandom...it is a hard thing to break away from. Not like there's anything remotely wrong with FF. It's an interesting difference in the feel of the two...playing in other people's awesome universes has to be one of the best things in existance. ;D
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Post by kanedbydemons on Feb 27, 2005 9:14:29 GMT -5
Yeah, I know what you mean. But having your own awsome universe sounds good too, 'cause then you can do anything without having to be realistic to the original owner's ideas. I'll find one eventually, I guess.
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Post by Cy Skywalker on Feb 27, 2005 13:27:37 GMT -5
Yeah..just keep it in the back of your mind, you'll find something. I've gotten some cool/wierd ones from dreams...but my dreams are really wierd sometimes.
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Post by Dûncariel on Feb 28, 2005 22:39:11 GMT -5
I've had RP characters born from dreams. Down to names, even. Quite vivid.
I have so many grand ideas for what I want to write, but so little patience to write them down. So, what I get is a bunch of choppy sections of a bigger tale, but often they don't ever get finished. I find pieces of stories whenever I clean out a notebook, and I'm like, "Oh, look! I needed that, like, three months ago, when I was still writing this story." Quite frustrating, really.
So, if I ever get a story that's more than six notebook pages long posted over the 'net, then you'll know that I'm getting better at my organizational stuff. and vice versa. You may never see any of my stuff at all. Ha.
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Post by Cy Skywalker on Mar 1, 2005 8:35:37 GMT -5
i know what that's like, to find stuff from ages ago lying around...it like brings back little ideas you had/felt. Hrm...RPs...i have to many charcters! *whines* I did get my first/best one from a SW fic...you know her, i think.
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Post by Dûncariel on Mar 6, 2005 16:32:16 GMT -5
My first character was never really well developed, as Le'lorinel decided to disappear in the middle of a dang good RP. *sniff*
But I love Curyoi. He's a pretty intense character, and he's got history and all that jazz. All the stuff I've ever written about him is pretty good. He's actually making a sort of camio appearance in the stuff I'm working on now, with Cemendir and what-not, since he's always been Cem's brother..... *sigh* Complications.
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Post by Cy Skywalker on Mar 10, 2005 19:53:17 GMT -5
Its so much fun connecting stuff. All my SW fics except a couple can be connected...it all has to do with a time machine...
The hard thing with making people is that they all have such an individual character. If you watch people with that in mine, you begin to think "it can not be possible to write that." That is what i am working on now. That and OF worlds, and pure style, and scedule, and writing Christian SF...
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