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Post by Cy Skywalker on Dec 12, 2004 12:07:48 GMT -5
This is gonna sound really random, but I got an issue of Scientific American the other day and they had this group of scientists make ferrets watch The Matrix, to determine if the ferrets' brains worked harder when the were watching something than when things were still around them. Debates about the quality of the movie aside, the ferrets' brains worked at the same capacity both times. This means, they say, that brains work like a old cartoon kindof, where when something moves the brain pays attention to it and adds it to the "formed reality" but when stuff is not moving the brain just knows its part of the reality and doesn't bother thinking about it much. Creating generated reality takes a lot of energy. So, I thought that was both relevant and amusing. They had this cartoon of ferrets in trenchcoats...And I am actually very surprised that I was able to think about this at all, because before that THE had explained her yelow-brain purple-brain thing, and that is one of the weirdest theories I have ever heard.
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Post by Spazzy on Dec 12, 2004 17:10:59 GMT -5
Yes, it is a weird theory, but some are very weird liek that.. Sometimes they may not make much sense but, in the end they might... I like all the theories that have been posted here so far.. I think as we get older our theories will become much more compact and it will make a lot more sense...
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Post by Cy Skywalker on Dec 12, 2004 18:06:21 GMT -5
Probably. That or as we get older we'll be to preoccupied with the real world to worry about theories...i have heard that can happen.
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Post by MFB on Dec 12, 2004 18:36:15 GMT -5
...I exsist by desire in Hyrule...and in the ESPS origional board. ;D
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Post by Cy Skywalker on Dec 12, 2004 18:41:23 GMT -5
"exist by desire"? that sounds full of potential.
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Post by Spazzy on Dec 12, 2004 19:15:44 GMT -5
yes, it does.......
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Post by Cy Skywalker on Dec 13, 2004 6:58:11 GMT -5
But what does it mean?
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Post by MFB on Dec 13, 2004 23:37:37 GMT -5
...I don't really know. ;D Maybe it means that I exist in places by the remembrance of my presence/existance? Er...NO! I CAN'T GET INTO THIS THREAD! TOO...MUCH.....THINKING!!!!! *pop*
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Post by Cy Skywalker on Dec 16, 2004 16:30:24 GMT -5
Wow that was...deep. But i liked it. *pop*
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Post by Spazzy on Dec 16, 2004 17:15:44 GMT -5
well, i was thinking about someone's post about existance... i don't remember with maybe we are just in a book... or something to that affect... i was questioning, why would a book let people die? I mean you here everyday that someone has been shot and killed but, why?? I know we all have a purpose for being here but, is it really fair to let people die because they are not needed anymore? I thought books were suppoesed to be of happiness and when someone is ill, they get nursed back to health and it is a life changing experience that is in a book??
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Post by SilverSergyon13 on Dec 17, 2004 13:42:05 GMT -5
Writing on the driveway was fun.....
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Post by Spazzy on Dec 17, 2004 14:37:35 GMT -5
No offense or anything... but, this thread is to talk about existance and that should go under Randomness SilverSergyon13..
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Post by SilverSergyon13 on Dec 17, 2004 14:41:22 GMT -5
Si Senorita, but read the second post. It talks about THE DRIVEWAY. This site is about randomness, so I think that would fit in anywhere, no? Geeze, I'm not even here a day, and I'm already gettin yelled at?
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Post by Spazzy on Dec 17, 2004 14:47:17 GMT -5
Well, I don't know... I started this thread so that it would be about existance.... There are other places to talk about randomness but, not in this thread.... Now, I know how MFB and Cy feel... No, i am not yelling, i am just saying that this thread is for the initial question.... EXISTANCE...
Now, to get back on track...
I was thinking about whether we would be able to tell or not if we existed.... I think that is undetermined... i think that scientists really don't go as in depth as this question has gone.... If we do exist and then, don't is that why people die and people get hurt? Is that when they don't exist?
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Post by Cy Skywalker on Dec 17, 2004 15:45:44 GMT -5
That WAS about existance. The whole conversation on the driveway was about that deep stuff.
Death is more...there has to be a physical limit to life. And something to separate us from God and make us imperfect. And why do people die in books? Drama. I presume it was a character you liked that died, or you wouldn't care much. Sometimes it's important to the plot. And occasionally, characters die even if the author doesn't know they're going to.
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Post by MFB on Dec 18, 2004 0:31:34 GMT -5
... LOLOOLOLLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! O* Wow, Spaz. I've never known you to care about on-topic-ness. It is truly a strange thing indeed. But IMHO, I believe Silver (may I call you by that?) was justified in her responce...although I must restate rule #5: NO DEPRESSION! *toss* ;D Remember, be not tearful and full of remorse, always be joyful and random, of course! ANYWAYS, don't be a hypocrte, Kyle. STAY ON TOPIC! ;D "Everything that has a beginning has an end." I know I've read that somewhere. Death, you can say, is the end to life of the body, as it is. But in reality, it is the beginning of a new and everlasting life, or, God forbid, torment. Without death, there would be no true happiness for our souls. The only true and perfect happiness we will ever recieve is from the Beatific Vision, which we all may hopefully experience after our parting from this world. And think not of death as a sad thing. It is only sad in relation to the conditions in which you die. Many have suffered and died throughout history for Christ. These mayters enjoy eternal happiness, as my faith teaches. Anyone who dies for Christ will instantly be taken up into heaven. So, in some regards, death can be a truly heroic and beautiful thing. No true novel or story is complete without a tragic, heroic, or epic death. Boromir and Theoden; Anakin, Qui-Gon, Yoda, and Obi-Wan; and many others, ficional and non-fictional, that I could recount. In the perfect words of Tolikin, one of the greatest fantisy writers and a good Christin, spoken through Gandalf and Pippin(I'm taking this from the movie cause I can't remember what he says in the book, word for word): Pippin: "I didn't think it would end this way." Gandalf: "End? No the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take. The gray-rain curtain of this world rolls back and all turns to silver glass...and then you see it... "What, Gandalf? See what?" "white shores, and beyond a fair green country, under a swift sunrise." "Well, that isn't so bad." "No...no it isn't."
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Post by Cy Skywalker on Dec 18, 2004 10:33:25 GMT -5
Very nice point. Nice little poem thing, too.
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Post by Spazzy on Dec 18, 2004 11:49:15 GMT -5
Yes, true.... But, now that it has happened to my own thread and Cy's interesting question was posted.. i want to know only of what you think of existance.... Sorry, Silver, it does have to do about the topic... You can also write something crazy and then add a little bit of what you think about existance... I mean so then, we really don't go off topic and then, we aren't on topic at the same time...
Yes, I learned about death a long time ago... i think... God has a plan or purpose for everyone and i think once that purpose has been completed he sends them up to be a part of his kingdom in Heaven... and then, all his children are together living in luxury.... hmmmmm, i wonder what Heaven is like?
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Post by Cy Skywalker on Dec 18, 2004 12:05:25 GMT -5
You'd have to look in the Bible. I can't remember at the moment. Also we're not really supposed to know.
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Post by Spazzy on Dec 19, 2004 10:38:06 GMT -5
Oh, okay.... Well, i will have to look in my bible to see if it is in there....
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