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Post by MFB on Apr 10, 2005 15:36:24 GMT -5
Ok, a very er...controversial subject. So try to keep it clean.  Just if anyone waqnts to rant on some stupid decisions of our governemt, then feel free. But try not to attack other's oppinions.  To start, in recent events with Terri Schivo, it seems the government truly has lost all humane sense of morals...to condemn someone to death who had done nothing wrong. Her husband obviously is a liar and an very immoral man...I'm sure he doesn't love her. The whole event was just sickening...poor Terri. At least she's at peace. |
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Post by Chaotic Master Darth Warious on Apr 10, 2005 17:08:57 GMT -5
WEll. I want to take the other side of this case.
*Flame me at thy own risk!*
Terri was essentailly dead when the accident happened. When a person's consiousness is no longer there but ther're body remains the person is already dead and no more then an empty shell.
It is possible to have damaged the consiousness of the brain but still have most vital functions intact. (take biology and you'll see it's true)
Do not point accusatory fingers at Mr. Schivo, he considered his wife dead and moved on with his life.
HOWEVER! *hear me out* THis is about politics, and being of voting age, I will have my say about them.
Congress and the Supreme Court had no right to interfere.
This is a breach of the constitution. (I have studied it and learned a great deal) THey overstepped their bounds. This should have never come to court or congress. But once again the persistance of american ignorance has caused yet ANOTHER error.
I could speak about other instances but I may bore you.
I have written a few political based poems. And have had mixed results on them. It all depends on your Obi-Wan Philosophy.
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Post by SilverSergyon13 on Apr 10, 2005 18:11:57 GMT -5
Terri Schiavo's case annoyed the heck out of me. Frankly, the public had no sense in getting involved. You know how many other people are being killed in other countries? How many people are mistreated? Do you know how many other important issues could be taken care of rather then waste all our energy on one woman who had the plug pulled. It was none of our business anyways. Sick people's plugs are pulled everyday, but no...the government all their stinking time and money on ONE person. Diseases could've been cured with the money, people could've been fed, shelters could've been built.
Yes, it was a sad thing that she had to die, but we learn from our mistakes. Now ppl will realize that they should get a living will as soon as they are old enough. Unfortunately Terri hadn't, but now we know. I don't have much to say on whether or not she should've been keep alive. I can only say that in that situation I would probably like to die, but if I was imcapable of making that descision, the best I would do is hope for my family to make the best descision. Really, the descision of Terri's family was none of my business and that's the way it should've been to the rest of the public.
Don't think I'm some insensitive person or anything like that, but I just think descision that should be made by the family, should be made by the family, not by the government. The government needs to take their head out of their butts and see the whole picture, not waste their time on one little thing. (Haha, I shouldn't say anything bad about the government because most of my family works for the government. lol)
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Post by Chaotic Master Darth Warious on Apr 11, 2005 15:37:43 GMT -5
Totaly agree with what you said about the public's involvement.
There hasn't been anything more annoying to hear about then this Schivo case. except the Michael Jackson one...That is REALLY annoying.
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Post by SilverSergyon13 on Apr 11, 2005 16:46:59 GMT -5
Ugh, Michael Jackson irks me to no end! He used to be so good looking when he was much younger! I thought he looked so cute before he got all that danged plastic surgery. His music was pretty good too (I mean it's not like this case changes the music, I still kind of like it). He just so totally ruined his life, but if you thinbk about it, it seems like all great artists have their strangenesses...
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Post by Morndakiél on Apr 11, 2005 18:25:02 GMT -5
Tsk, politics. I say leave them to the politicians. It's not like we can really do anything about it anyway.
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Post by SilverSergyon13 on Apr 11, 2005 18:28:44 GMT -5
Sure we can... Who do you think will be the next politicians of tomorrow? The younger generation.
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Post by Cy Skywalker on Apr 11, 2005 18:38:14 GMT -5
Well, i think if you want to get into it is a good thing. To have the power to effect the country--that is if you do it for the good of the country--could be very useful. I, personally, am not sure what I think about Terri Schiavo. I feel...distanced from such things. Noncommital. The thing with that is you never knew the whole truth. The news got new stuff out all the time, so I waited on a decision. Now it's over. Should they have killed her? No.
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Post by SilverSergyon13 on Apr 11, 2005 20:48:34 GMT -5
I have already been officially dubbed Mayor of Hope Township for one whole day. I had won this essay contest thing and for the whole day I had "mayorish" power. Power is a wonderful thing. Supposedly my name is now in the records for having passed a couple resolutions while I was in office. ;D
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Post by Dûncariel on Apr 11, 2005 21:17:08 GMT -5
Didn't any of you see her while she was in the hospital?! She was responsive! The whole thing makes me incredibly angry, so I'll try not to, er, shout, or anything.
'Tis true that the public really had no right to have anything to do with this case, since it should never had been a case at all, but we do have a right to know what is wrong with the justice system. First of all, the case was run already. When it was brought to the judge for the second time, he was supposed to gain new evidence to base the case on. Instead of following the law, and gaining and reviewing this new evidence, he instead based his resolutions on the evidence from the first case. Which is illegal.
The second thing that really ticks me off is that they let her starve to death. If they were going to let her die, why did they not do it the humane way? Lethal injection or something? Instead, she had to starve. No food, no water. That's the worst part. And her family -- her real family -- had to sit and watch her go. It's sick. And her 'husband' walked away with a fortune. It really, really disturbes me . If no one cares for life, what will be next? We're like the Romans. Life doesn't matter, we don't care for people, so we're just going to start killing ourseves off, and no one will care.
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Post by Chaotic Master Darth Warious on Apr 12, 2005 8:58:55 GMT -5
Tsk, politics. I say leave them to the politicians. It's not like we can really do anything about it anyway. Comming from someone who is supposed ot be of the darkside? I'm am dissapointed. Remember Darth Sidious (my late master) and what he could do with politics? There is great power in store for those Sith who can conqure the game! Of course there are those who do not have the aptitude for it. |
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Post by Cy Skywalker on Apr 12, 2005 11:12:01 GMT -5
so silver, what resolutions did you pass? Are chickens citizens now? ;D
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Post by Jedi Arwen ~ Protector of Life on May 1, 2005 18:28:32 GMT -5
Oh my, first I will say I'm right beside Dun and MFB on the Terri case , May her soul rest in peace. I do some politics stuff. I'm the President of our zoo Explorer post. Campaining was fun! I made buttons ;D. heheheheheh And what do I get now from my fellow SW friends? "She's a politican, the're not to be trusted..." LOLOL!!!! |
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Post by Spazzy on May 1, 2005 21:30:50 GMT -5
Okay, well now, I have gotten stared.. Terri Shivo where should I start.. I don't believe that it was right to have the public in the whole situation but, I do see where the publicity could help the next case that is like hers.. I mean we can make a difference and with the publicity it got, it attracted lots of people to try and change things... I don't think that it was fair to see things about her in the paper everyday and make her life an open book.. Everyone is entitled to some privacy and I feel hers was taken away..
Her husband was cruel in taking her life like that.. An innocent woman who could laugh and tried to talk and could cry has died because of his selfishness.. He is too busy thinking about what he wants rather than what is in the best interest of Terri. Should he have ended her life?? I don't think so.. He is not blood related to her and he should have been terminated his rights to be her guardien in this whole matter..
I also don't think it is right that he took her body up to PA to bury her.. She should have been buried down in Florida where she lived and where her family lives who loved her.. He choose her final fate but, yet the family isn't entitled to be able to bury her in FL.. He also had the right to choose whether her parents would be able to come to the funeral or not? What is this world coming too? When, I think of how she died, I don't think it is right.. No one should have to die like that.. It is cruel and unjust..
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Post by Jaina~ timesplitter on May 28, 2005 13:18:46 GMT -5
BORING!!!!!!
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Just if anyone waqnts to rant on some stupid decisions of our governemt, then feel free. But try not to attack other's oppinions. 
Invader 
