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Post by Spazzy on Dec 13, 2004 18:20:24 GMT -5
Really, i have no idea what it was..... we were talking about random stuff and one of the topics was very long and she was telling me about how much she was thinking or something like that..... i wasn't really paying attention, because i was listening to my sick sounding and acting bus... we really need to get it fixed... ;D
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Post by MFB on Dec 13, 2004 23:55:55 GMT -5
Exactly, Cy. That is one of the points I was trying to get out in my "lecture." ;D But you have hit the mark more clearly than my attempt. It's oftentimes hard to post here because of lack of replyable posts, too few members, etc. We should try to sticky this post...;D
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Post by Spazzy on Dec 14, 2004 16:37:01 GMT -5
Sticky this post how??? oh and MFB, i think that how you tried to explain it was very longer and cy's was more brief and to the point ;D
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Post by Cy Skywalker on Dec 16, 2004 16:22:57 GMT -5
oh, I thought mine was more confusing...his was simple, was it not? I don't really remember. ;D thanks though. At least your whole school is not old and crummy like Belvidere is...is this off topic? Pretty much everything in the "general" section is becoming random conversation, though many of them also, like "announcement" have no real point beyond the first couple posts, or at least not a point that can be kept going.
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Post by Spazzy on Dec 16, 2004 17:24:36 GMT -5
Yes, well we are a bunch of teenagers that like to post... I mean for me it is very easy for me to get off topic! ;D
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Post by evabear on Mar 12, 2005 13:57:27 GMT -5
Yes, Spaz can get off topic on a lot of things.. i will be sitting and talking on the phone to her and she goes off on a tangent about something else..
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Post by SilverSergyon13 on Mar 12, 2005 17:38:24 GMT -5
Ok, I read the whole speech thing, but I didn't read all the replies. I shall go back a do that once I finsh writing my reply to this topic.
I'm sorry, as I don't mean to be a butt about any of this, but I'm a rebel; this is what I do. Please no one take this personally as this refers to everyone in general.
Anyways, personally I am a little confused on a few things.
It seems to me like rules are very important on this website, and speaking of things that are annoying (especially to me), rules are just that. Sometimes it seems as if on this website rules are taken much too seriously and a lot of time it's rules that spoil fun. IMO if you have a problem with something, don't beat around the bush...go directly to that person. Don't enforce the rules again to everyone else (as frankly I get tired of hearing about the rules over and over time and again) I hate control. I hate it with all my heart and when rules become a thing to control, it makes me angry. Rules don't have to control, they are more like...guidelines. If someone breaks them, that is their problem and if you have a problem with them doing so, please speak to them one on one.
When has this happened? Have I missed something? I have not seen someone bragging about how many posts they have and to me, whether or not someone has more posts doesn't matter. If it really matters that much to have more posts then others then fine. It doesn't bother me and I really can't see how it can bother anyone else. I have only 400 posts and some of you have thousands. Maybe I don't like replying to everyones threads or maybe I don't get on the computer much, but just because I have less posts doesn't make a difference to me. Those who know me, should know me for the quality of posts which I post, not how many. If for some reason someone should brag, simply stay away from that thread. You don't have to read all threads, and even if you do, you are not obligated to reply.
When has anyone on this website ever bashed a story? Or when has anyone ever been overly nasty to another? From what I've seen; never. Respect is a valuable thing and everyone wants it, but I have seen no one so far betray this. Once again ( I will probably repeat this several times) If someone has disrespected you in any way, go to them. Please to not make it a public things. By doing that one is being disrespectful IMO. The person you believe is being disrespectful may not know that or may not realize it, so simply tell them. Tell them politely and that can solve more problems then one would think. A mjority of the time disrespect is all one big misunderstanding.
I must point out here that as strange as it sounds, a message board can become almost like a family to one. It is a place to vent, a place to get support, a place to be with others who have the same joys as you. You cannot, I repeat cannot, force someone to have fun. If someone has a bad day and wants a place to vent, what if this is the only place. Are you going to get mad at that person for posting a sad topic? Are you going to ban them or lock that thread because they need help with something, or they need some support? Just because it may not look like fun, doesn't mean it should be condemned. As stated before, everyone needs to be courteous and this includes to those who are sad or having an off day. As stated above, if you do not want to read a thread, no one is forcing you to. Instead of telling people not to post depressing threads, perhaps try to respect their moods and maybe even help them out.
This is a very vague rule. To me depression is someone who says they have a horible life and are perfectly capable of fixing it or doing something, yet they don't. As long as we are not posting about suicide, harms to others, or any other topic that would require you to be arrested or medically examined, I see no depression. If the depression you are thinking of refers to sadness, then I say that is an expression of emotion. Lack of expression leads to depression, so why bannish something so important to human nature? We may be talking about aliens, folks, but don't forget the fact that we ARE humans. Emotions are what makes us. Whether we are sad, happy, or mad, it shouldn't matter. We should always be supportive. Sometimes happy people annoy me more then sad people.
Isn't our board already quite random? We may be on this website for a long time during the day, but don't forget we all have real lives. Now I don't know what reality is to the rest of you, but every reality is hard and gives problems; speedbumps if you will. Sometimes one must be serious. Please, do not condemn a person's "Real life", just because it is not fun to you.
Though I agree copying is not nice, just because something annoys someone, you cannot tell eveyone to adapt to that. A lot of things annoy me, yet I don't go around telling people not to do it because it annoys me. If I have a problem I go directly to that person. Either that or I tolerate it. If you don't have the guts to speak to a person about something, you better learn to tolerate, because either you'll be very disliked throughout life, or you'll always be annoyed.
I do believe it was stated earlier that all posts should be funny, yet this whole thread is serious. I don't see a problem with serious threads at all, in fact to have a good message board it is neccessary, however, by stating what was staed in this whole speech you are saying these types are not allowed? At least that is how it come across to me.
Control is an evil evil thing. randomness is in no way "in control".
Anyway, if someone could PM me and tell me excatly how things have gone "out of control" that would be great. I just have not seen any problems.
Make what stop? Have I missed something?! This whole post has been about "stopping" post wars, but exactly is meant by this? To me this whole thread prompted for a "posting war" as you call it.
I knowingly break rules all the time. I am not ignorant, I simply break them because I do, or because I have a reason.
I could have answered it in many ways, but you need creativity. Maybe not everyone here is creative. I doubt that is the problem, so why is this such a big issue. Come on people, use your IMAGINATION! I'm sick and tired of hearing excuses. If you can't answer the previous post, refer to the one before it.
Ok, now that I am done with my rant, and now quite angry with this whole thing, I will end this. I really did not see a point for this whole thread.
God, I hate control....
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Post by Spazzy on Mar 12, 2005 18:32:51 GMT -5
I understand Silver, what you are trying to say... I reread what has been said in this thread and understand completley what you are trying to say.. I am not a big fan of rules but, sometimes they have to be enforced and if they aren't then, there would only be chaos on this site instead of friends coming together to have fun in talk.. i must say that some rules I don't like and therefore if I have good reason, I won't follow them.. This site does seem to be a little on the rules side and it makes it sound if you break a rule you shall pay for it...
Your first quote was my fault.. I have done a lot of things on here and they are mostly my fault.. I like to share with people how many posts I have had and sometimes I admit it gets annoying and people don't like it.. I take it over the top and sometimes people don't like it.. As, you said Silver it really doesn't matter but, I think the only reason I have so many posts is because I am on most of the time of the day and I don't really think about it much at all.. I just post what I can and so, then, people can't reply to them or do anything with them.. My posts are just there and then, no one can reply to them.. I think you weren't here when this happened that is why you might have missed that.. They put this thread here to make me realize what happened and to tell me to stop....
I don't know anout the second quote either... I have never seen that either Silver so, I am most confused by what MFB said by that.. I think it was pribably something I did because that whole speech on the first page was aimed at me..
I am not very good at things being interesting... I am a very boring person and the posts that I post aren't that interesting but, it depends on the person that you are talking to.. I won't be able to change my style of writing quickly because that is just who I am.. I do agree that sometimes we all have bad days and if we can't talk to someone about it, i just hangs over the persons head.. Sadness I agree is an emotion and everyone has it.. Since, that rule of no depression if I have a bad day I can't come on here and tell someone because it is against the rules.. So, instead I lock myself in my room and listen to music and type what I feel on my computer but, then delete it so, no one can read it but, I would love to be able to tell someone what has happened or what I am feeling becuase it makes me feel better..
My fault again with the "post wars".. It was supposed to be funny not to be taken seriously.. Back when, Cy and I had the same amount of posts and I challenged her to a "post war".. We were gonna see who could post the most but, it was meant to be a joke not taken litteraly but, unfortunatley it did...
If I don't agree with a rule I will break it because I don't see it fair to abide by it if, it is hurting me...
I am not as random as most of ya'll but, I am getting there... Imagination is big and sometimes people won't use it and others will get mad.. Posting is supposed to be fun and some people have standards that they want posts to be by.. Some people don't like you standards and it doesn't change how they post.. The person though is ultimatly trying to change a person because the person isn't good enough for them..
Okay, now I am heated also.. I really shouldn't have replied but AC... I see now that most of the things that were said int he first speech were directed towards me.. Now, I see that everything that goes wrong is all my fault..
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Post by MFB on Mar 12, 2005 19:14:18 GMT -5
…How in Hyrule did this topic get bumped? Lol If I were to make a short a simple response, it would be this: This thread is old and thus should be ignored, for the subjects addressed herein are of no importance any longer. But obviously this requires a bit more effort than that. Ok, where to start? Yes, I posted this thread, and it was aimed, not at Spaz, not at Cy, not at anyone but to eliminate bad posts. This is not a rule statement, or anything of enforcement. It’s a suggestion.That said, Spazzy, I feel you think I’m aiming such a thing at you. I am not. Don’t you ever think you mess things up around here. I must say that you have come a long way in posting than when I first met you. "I must point out here that as strange as it sounds, a message board can become almost like a family to one. It is a place to vent, a place to get support, a place to be with others who have the same joys as you. You cannot, I repeat cannot, force someone to have fun. If someone has a bad day and wants a place to vent, what if this is the only place. Are you going to get mad at that person for posting a sad topic? Are you going to ban them or lock that thread because they need help with something, or they need some support? Just because it may not look like fun, doesn't mean it should be condemned. As stated before, everyone needs to be courteous and this includes to those who are sad or having an off day. As stated above, if you do not want to read a thread, no one is forcing you to. Instead of telling people not to post depressing threads, perhaps try to respect their moods and maybe even help them out." That would be welcomed, I am sure. I don’t believe that the boards are restricted to only fun stuff. If someone needs HELP then by all means, ask, and we’ll listen/help. BUT! Depression is, I believe by ESPS standards, the unrestricted emphasis on sadness/hate without any intent to repent/get help/listen to others. It would be unsettling if someone came on and posted only depressingly, possibly bashing others for their happiness. Depression can make people do things to you that you never thought they’d do. "I do believe it was stated earlier that all posts should be funny, yet this whole thread is serious. I don't see a problem with serious threads at all, in fact to have a good message board it is neccessary, however, by stating what was staed in this whole speech you are saying these types are not allowed? At least that is how it come across to me." Not in the least. Serious threads are very much welcomed. You think I’m one who can create what is allowed and not? No, MFB is just a G-Mod. I merely help the admins when I can. Serious posts are very much welcomed. As far as rules go, I’m not in the mood to argue over such things. But I shall explain why there are rules. Rules are there to protect the members. You are quite right, Silver, that when you have a problem with someone it should be addressed personally. But the rules are there in the incident someone goes outta “control,” meaning not outta our control, but theirs. If someone started shouting obscenities at myself, refused to apologize, and continued, then what would we do if there were no rules? Talk to the admins first. Have them solve it. But there are no rules regarding obscenities, and so, he does not see why he can’t say them. Silly example, as the admins would likely ban him anyways, but it’s used. People can be ignorant and annoying, even after being warned. The rules are guidelines, but they are guidelines to be followed. So what if I felt like…going around saying obscenities in a post? Hat if it was aimed at Cy? Or you, Silver? Only one post…then stop for awhile. I just felt that the rules were getting in my way. I wanted to disregard them. Luckily, I would never do such a thing, but what if someone came on who would? That is why I don’t believe in disregarding the rules. The board should not be sacrificed for the sake of one member, if it means the upsetting of all the others. Sorry if this post sounds in any way ignorant/proud/stupid MFBness. I’m in the middle of school and wasn’t expecting a large debate. Keep in mind this happened months ago, and doesn’t really need addressing now. And since were on the topic of talking to others if there’s something that bothers you, Silver, would you kindly refrain from using the Lord’s Name in vain on the boards? It disturbs me…
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Post by SilverSergyon13 on Mar 12, 2005 19:20:26 GMT -5
Nothing is your fault, Spaz. It seems as if some people have no tolerance and things have to be their way.
If you are having a bad day, you can come to me and talk. I am always willing to. I'll even give you my phone number, seeing as it would be against the rules to post here.
Sometimes these posts make me extremely angry.
Now quite a few people are mad and why are they mad? Because something was posted that blamed things on people and pretty much stated to "follow all rules or else". Even though it was said those comments were aimed at no one in particular, don't you think that wuld raise curiosity and have people wonder whether it was them who prompted this post?
I just guess I'm....disapointed. I kind of expected more...
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Post by SilverSergyon13 on Mar 12, 2005 19:22:13 GMT -5
Ok, disreagard last post. We seem to have posted at the same time.
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Post by SilverSergyon13 on Mar 12, 2005 19:32:00 GMT -5
I must please ask you to make requests such as this via PM, as it seems each of us have different beliefs on this topic.
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Post by Spazzy on Mar 12, 2005 21:00:21 GMT -5
I do cause a lot of problems and if you hadn't of written that one post we would never be haveing this debate.. Well, I do agre3e with some things but, this thread has brought back too many memories and there you go with teasing people that you are a G-Mod.. I mean, I am not a G-Mod and I am just a regular person on this site but, for me I don't appreciate you going around teasing people that you are a G-Mod.. It just *upset*es me off.. Okay, well if you had sent me a PM about what was going on we would never be having this discussion now would we..Yes, that first post was aimed at me and I know as well as all of us that you did.. Now, that I am fumed I am leaving..
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Post by Jedi Arwen ~ Protector of Life on Mar 12, 2005 22:18:57 GMT -5
I got lost, but i aggree with the orignal post
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Post by Spazzy on Mar 12, 2005 23:36:00 GMT -5
It is okay JA.. It can get confusing after a few posts..
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Post by Cy Skywalker on Mar 13, 2005 10:08:17 GMT -5
*sigh* personally i think this debate has gone on two long...things have been better, better than what started the debate at least, for a time now. But don't let me stop you.
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Post by Spazzy on Mar 13, 2005 12:09:27 GMT -5
Akith! THE was supposed to close this thing like early this morning or something.. I hope she gets rid of it..*toss* then, we shall be all better..
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Post by K*doom*ELF on Mar 13, 2005 13:02:46 GMT -5
there seems to have been a problem with dates. this is a long gone december thread that was bumbed, and everyone thought was new. since these things are confused-- i will fix things that now need fixing, etc. and this thread will be locked, AC? it is water under the bridge, only a lesson learned, and not to be used against anyone member. IMO. the thread will be locked, not deleted, in case we need to refer to this as reference. i hope not. anyway. *bump* *lock* *key is thrown away*
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